I’ve always been this optimistic since 3x22
which show are you watching????
Elena pulled him in to kiss him by grabbing his head and Damon got the message
Exactly. I’ve said this many times.
Also, Damon has stayed even after she has rejected him because she needs him or just to protect her. Damon knows she’s the one. He doesn’t question it or even say it out loud
Yeah apparently they are.
Everyone thinks that. Lets see how predictable Plec is
Not at all because Elena never meant them.
Elena said “It’s always gonna be Stefan” when she wasn’t thinking beyond the “right now”, which wasn’t even in 3x22 “I can’t think about always; all I can think about is right now” but 2x14, 2x20 and 4x01 she wasn’t thinking beyond the present. It was a naive girl talking about her epic love while being in denial of her feelings for Damon. Notice how the first time she uses “always” with Stefan is when Damon is pushing her to admit something is going on between them? It’s a girl who is scared to admit the truth so she throws in “always” with Stefan.
Please don’t tell me she didn’t have feelings then because I’ve made so many posts about itand even Nina Dobrev said in the beginning of season 2 when Damon and Elena weren’t in the best place:
“They have an undeniable chemistry and a undeniable je ne sais quoi. There’s something there that neither of them can really put their finger on—well at least Elena can’t”
That doesn’t sound like “something”? Doesn’t the fact that she hasn’t thought about “always” and yet says it show her deflection of her feelings for Damon? She never actually meant those words.
About “No matter what happens, it’s the best choice I ever made”, she said that because he respected her decision to save Matt while she knew Damon wouldn’t. Plec’s words:
Stefan helped Matt like Elena told him to, and that’s one of the big differences between the brothers. Damon would have left Matt down there. According to Plec, that’s “a point that Elena will make very, very quickly: ‘Yes, that’s why when I had a choice to make, in about who I wanted to be with, that helped inform the choice that I made. Knowing these things about Stefan versus Damon…Stefan respects me and my choices and me as an individual, and Damon loves me and I know that and who could avoid giving in to that, except he wouldn’t be the kind of guy that would save my friend.’”
It wasn’t about who she loved more or who she wanted to be with. It was about who she should be with which would be consonance with her morals. Rationalization again.
I quote Mary
maybe you were hoping I’ll screw it up so I can just make the decision for you, am I wrong?
she was doing exactly that when she asked about matt, cause she knew exactly what he would reply, she knew he would say he would have saved her and not matt, and she knew they would argue and she would get an excuse to run away. and he knew exactly what she was doing and why. and he gave it to her, told her the truth of the situation, the truth that she doesn’t like so much. feed her sweet lies and she’ll smile at you, tell her the truth and she’ll scowl. THAT’S JUST THE MESS THAT THEY ARE. only it’s not him sabotaging anymore, it’s about her deflecting and not wanting to deal with any of it.
Well, he didn’t screw up per se but the point was that she was looking for an excuse not to be with him and she found it in him letting others die to save her. She made her choice already but she needed to hear the words from his mouth so that she could finally tell herself it’s over and get her closure, only then he tells her exactly why he would’ve done it and there goes closure out the window. You can see her smile in disbelief fall and her swallowing and her getting teary eyed when he’s giving her that speech. Damon asks her “Are we done here?” right before she asks him if he’d save Matt and Elena gets her answer. She isn’t done with him yet. She’s far from done.
And that’s why she ends the episode saying “I’ll be with you forever…if I want” and she still wants to take one day at a time. It was still a “right now” decision”. Her decision to be with Stefan wasn’t as much as how she felt as much as what she thought she should do, what was the right thing to do but it wasn’t final even then.
If it really was the best decision, she wouldn’t have an “if I want” added. There shouldn’t be conditional clauses. There should be certainty which there wasn’t
These are statements Damon believes more than Elena
It’s Stefan what’re you expecting?
I know that
IKR? Apparently according to Plec what happens during summer for DE happens off screen.